Cerberus MO

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    • #839
      Mr.Green
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      I always felt, that the way, they portrayed TIM and Cerberus in ME3 was a waste of good people and story element. Judging by their portrayal in ME1 and ME2 – they have had come off, as yes, a kind of survival-group with focus on developing advanced-tech and shock troopers for Humanity’ use.

      The RR-verse by College Fool, in my opinion is a good portrayal of Cerberus. Acting in the shadows – willing to act, how and where, they are needed. Its not pretty, but its better than the alternative.

      The Collector Base in canon!ME3, I felt was also wasted. Its supposed to be so-called, Reaper-tech which is supposed to be advanced. And yet we see, nothing of its worth except a war-asset bonus. TIM said, it could be valueable and used – and yet he makes a so newbie-decision of getting indoctrinated himself. Lame. He couldn’t have been that stupid.

      Plus, we heard Shepard speak several times this was about survival. And yet, throughout my missions, I got the feeling. That while, we were allowing the aliens breathing space – Earth was getting spanked hard. (I admit, I am not a military man – and a rush, onto a Reaper-controlled planet, might not be a wise decision, without overwhelming firepower)

      xxx

      After playing canon!ME3, I felt that Cerberus could have acted differently. And TIM, could have gained power and influence through their usual ways – while still acting badass and mysterious.

      xxx

      It could start, in ME2, with Cerberus getting the Collector Base intact. AND ACTUALLY using the tech there, to improve their situation and that of Humanity. So, when the Reapers smash in six months later – the Alliance has some warnining. Via ‘tip’ or actual, new sensors developed by ‘indepented sources’.

      Cerberus’ reputation might have called them terrorists. But, if in ME3 – with Shepard escaping, Cerberus could have deployed their own troops to defend Earth.

      Are they really terrorists or a survival-group? Its hard to tell them then, when they are defending civilians and annihilating Reaper-forces while the Alliance’ soldiers are failing.

      Fueled by Collector-tech, they could give the Alliance’ forces, an actual breathing-space. Their reputation could easily improve, from terrorists to Defender of Humanity – like TIM had propagated. Its profiting off fear, but that is what TIM is good at.

      xxx

      The whole premise of ME3, would remain the same. But with a Cerberus element to it. Hackett had spoken of making, Shepard his spear. TIM could also contact, Shepard on every mission he/she are on. Promising Cerberus forces, for Humanity – in exchange, for allowing certain data or documents to be given to Cerberus.

      (While recovering the female Krogan from Sur’Kesh – TIM, would ask Shepard to upload bugs, in the salarian’ systems. In exchange, Shepard could later hear on the news network – Cerberus’ forces saving a colony)

      (Not uploading the bugs, could also result in Shepard – hearing a colony falling to Reaper forces)

      (This could easily set the bar on survival – us or them. Its war, who is going to live or die? Its gives off, more pressure and drama – than simply everybody living, if your friends are your peeps or not)

      xxx

      Sure, TIM is abusing his control of Shepard. Letting them choose, whether to sink the alien’ ship to save their own people or not – instead of supporting immediately.

      The more you aid Cerberus, the more hopeful news comes from Earth and their surrounding colonies – Cerberus managing to re-establish connection with Earth, get ships and supplies, evacuate civilians. Is Shepard, really making bad choices – when a mother could speak to her child, safe and fed on Earth?

      This also causes the opposite effect, of other races security failing. With breaches, failures and certain people vanishing. It does give perspective, that your choices matter.

      I could even smell a loyalty-crisis, if you support Cerberus’ plots too much. Enough that your alien’ crew could start questioning your resolve. (Are you saving only your own species?)

      The same could happen, if you support the aliens too much, and get a loyalty crisis from your human crewmembers. (Don’t you care about your own race?)

      xxx

      I could even smell, getting Kai Leng – as final squad-mate, in the final push for the beam; if you supported Cerberus’ the entire way.

      xxx

      So, what are your two cents about this kind of idea?

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    • #850
      Logical Premise
      Keymaster

      Perhaps you should take a stab at an AU rewrite of ME yourself?

      Purge the alien. Kill the heretic. Suffer not the witch to live.

    • #851
      Mr.Green
      Participant

      You think so?

      Would the idea, of a pragmatic Shepard be reasonable? In canon-context?

      I always, felt, when playing ME2 – playing idealist, was just unreasonable. If TIM hadn’t screwed up in ME3; that Collector Base could have offered us some major human-power.

      xxx

      The only thing, I might have an issue over is TIM’ motive in AU!ME3.

      Would he strike from the shadows? Gaining assets, through Shepard or proxies? Keeping his hands clean, and Cerberus’ military assets helping the Alliance – while after the war is over. Cerberus disappears back into the shadows – and he starts to manipulate the recovering galaxy to Humanity’ favor.

      Or would he, make a blatant over-throw of the entire Council?

      This is me trying to figure out, which is better. Cerberus, and by proxy Humanity emerging on top as the true victor of the Reaper War.

      OR Cerberus remaining as a secret kabal – unknown, uncapturable but a very powerful organization. Loosing militarily, but gaining up-matched scientific and intelligence assets.

      Which one suits better?

    • #852
      Logical Premise
      Keymaster

      Have you SEEN the goddamned way they turned Cerberus into a pack of clowns who couldn’t run a taco stand?

      You could literally adapt an MLP fic into ME and have a better product than that. What you’ve written maintains Cerberus as antagonist while removing the derp and fail from the equasion — I think it would go very well.

      “The only thing, I might have an issue over is TIM’ motive in AU!ME3.”

      I can’t see Harper making a play himself for dominance by Cerberus — he’s a guy that sticks to the shadows. The more openly he operates the more vulnerable he is, the second sounds more like his style, TBH.

      Purge the alien. Kill the heretic. Suffer not the witch to live.

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