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    • #911
      Mr.Green
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      That time of the week again. When the brain-itch has resurfaced. Just shows you kids, wear a full-sealed hazard-suit when handling hanar.

      xxx

      1) Who is P.?

      I have been forever, wanting to know. Who is this guy, in general. From the small snippets I’ve gathered, his is supposed to be an ur-turian – not sure what that is; said to sound both like a turian and not. He is said, to ‘be’ long-lived or character of his like have been spotted through the centuries. Plus, he seemed to not like the Palavanus, for certain reasons.

      So, is there something to this guy? Is he a simple turian!clown-Joker? The result of the Palavanus playing with trans-turianism? Or something else?

      xxx

      2) Shepard as a Commisar…

      This is a ‘what if’ kind of scenario. But she has stated, or has been recorded stating in the STG/Cerberus files – that she ‘kinda’ liked how the Commisars were.

      If the unthinkable happened – how would Shepard had been as a Commisar? Would she have reached a point high-enough to get her brain, under her own control? Been another ‘mook’ or been that ‘OMG-its-that-Commisar-run-for-the-hills’ kind of Commisar?

      xxx

      3) How much of this, is Liara’ fault?

      (I’ve read the entire OSABC, ATTWN and even TWCD. And through it all, I’ve gotten the nostalgia feeling – whenever Liara is portrayed in ‘certain’ situations. In canon!ME1 she had that loveable-childlike attitude to her, that made you like her somewhat. Here, sometimes, you just want to faceplant at the sheer idiocy or bluntness that is Liara. Its not even the kicking-dog feeling here – from Liara, you get the booing-the-bad-singer vibe; you want to pity her, but at the same time, her being just makes you want to sigh)

      And by that, I mean – how much would have changed, if somebody had slapped the ‘my-way-or-high-way’ attitude out of Liara in her youth. Bashed into her skull, that her mother ‘might’ have been just looking out for her – like any normal mother or parent. Where would she have been now?

      The second part – how much, could we fault the incidents of ME1 and the Shepard’ death on her?

      If Liara, had not been a angsty-teen – would her mother have fallen? Could Saren have gotten so far? Would Shepard have become, such a political-bullseye – when she gave the middle-finger to the Justicars? (And we know, if the Justicars want to, they could really ‘fuck-things-up)

      Would Shepard have died in the Normandy attack – if she just had, jumped into the escape-pod with Joker and Pressly and not minded, if any of the other escape pods had been shot down?

      xxx

      4) Why this Cycle – and not the others?

      This is more, of a personal question.

      When you started this rewrite of canon – what was your opinion, on why was it, that this Cycle would prevail over the Reapers?

      (In canon!Me – we had Shepard, who got brain-zapped with a ‘all-die video’ casuing them to go ballistic and chase down anything Reaper-ish. From stopping the Citadel arrival; Collector arrival, and Arrival)

      But what made, this Cycle – better than the others?

      Sure, the Council Cycle – had gotten a pre-warning, thanks to Shepard screaming around ‘Reapers’ like a pyjak on crack. But surely, there must have been other races, through the other Cycles?

      Some of them, could have been ‘meh’ – with the writings of ‘GALACTIC-ROBOT-RAPE-COMING’. But some races, could have easily gone ‘full-military’ crazy, upon reading such notes.

      So why did canon!Council – get to be, the survivors of the Reapers? (Besides having the Crucible ‘fully’ complete. Plus we had seen, the Protheans being better in some terms. Like weapons or biotics)

      [ My own opinion of this of canon!ME – is that, like the Crucible, with each race adding something to it. That the each race also, improved upon the mass effect technology – that was re-discovered by the next races before them and so on and so on. It was the Reapers plan, that the races follow along a ‘certain path of technology’ but one could say they were arrogant.]

      [ Would such an idea be feasible? Each race, adding towards the mass effect technology that the next uses. Being that mass accelerator in canon!ME being much-more powerful, than one that was used say ‘a ten million years ago’? ]

      xxx

      As a second note – why does, this PremiseVerse!Cycle get a ‘survive’ card. What is their reason, for being better than the others?

      (Besides, having Shepard – who likely sounded the ‘proverbial’ dinner-bell for the Darkness to come for Reaper-steak; since the Galaxy would have likely been eaten by the Reapers)

    • #913
      NPC
      Participant

      P’s identity? Well chapter 6 of Serendipity and Balance, it’s in there somewhere 🙂

      It appears P is a position but the mechanics on how it passes down are totally unknown.

      I have some thoughts on 4. If you remember from OSABC there’s a third Leviathan faction around. They’ve been mucking about for awhile now and I suspect their plans are working perfectly right now.

      They’ve been modifying races for several cycles now but I bet that’s just a small part of their end game. These are the same Leviathans who reactivated the Catalyst God Machine to trap Sovereign.

      My bet is when Harbinger leads a strike force of the most powerful Reapers to deal with the Catalyst, they’ll really be walking directly into the trap. With the oldest and most powerful Reapers gone, the ones who are hoarding Godpower abilities from their lesser kin, the same Reapers who are the leadership caste of the Reapers, well cut the head off the snake has a certain classic ring to it.

      Perhaps they’re planning on the Catalyst regaining control over his wayward creations.

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    • #916
      Logical Premise
      Keymaster

      That time of the week again. When the brain-itch has resurfaced. Just shows you kids, wear a full-sealed hazard-suit when handling hanar.

      Goody 😀

      1) Who is P.?

      So, is there something to this guy? Is he a simple turian!clown-Joker? The result of the Palavanus playing with trans-turianism? Or something else?

      NPC200 is both correct and incorrect. P. is a position passed down. P. is also a single identity. P. is … both a living being, and the ancient artifact that enables P. to be P.

      P. is the result of some very unwise decisions and experiments on the part of the Palavanus with some very ancient, very dangerous technology, in trying to correct the failings of the turians.

      What they unleashed instead is, luckily, not a friend of the Spirits.

      I’d tell you straight out, but that would ruin all the fun!

      2) Shepard as a Commissar…

      This is a ‘what if’ kind of scenario. But she has stated, or has been recorded stating in the STG/Cerberus files – that she ‘kinda’ liked how the Commisars were.

      If the unthinkable happened – how would Shepard had been as a Commissar? Would she have reached a point high-enough to get her brain, under her own control? Been another ‘mook’ or been that ‘OMG-its-that-Commissar-run-for-the-hills’ kind of Commissar?

      Shepard very well could have been picked up by the Commissariat press gangs if she’d not fallen into the clutches of the Tenth Street Reds. As a biotic, she would have become a Second Gen Commissar, probably a Brute rather than a Seducer.

      Ultimately without the further violence and drug use to fuck her up more, she might have recovered from her childhood in much the same way that Susan did. It is unlikely, however, that she would have amounted to much more than any other run of the mill commissar.

      3) How much of this, is Liara’ fault?

      In the end, as you will see, all of it. 😀

      And by that, I mean – how much would have changed, if somebody had slapped the ‘my-way-or-high-way’ attitude out of Liara in her youth. Bashed into her skull, that her mother ‘might’ have been just looking out for her – like any normal mother or parent. Where would she have been now?

      I think a point has to be made here about exactly why Benezia did what she did even before Saren.

      Benezia learned a horrible truth about Athame not long after watching Aethyta walk out of her life. By the time Liara was old enough to make any kind of choices — or even talk — the damage had already been done and was slowly festering.

      Benezia ultimately, despite rising to the highest ranks of the Temple, despite being the matriarch of one of the most honored of the Houses of the Thirty, despite being named ambassador, despite being the leader of a huge matriarchal cult, felt powerless.

      She’d never been intended to rule, seeking instead simply to be a historian. She’d never thought much on mating, being manuvered and twisted into bonding with a turian and then watching him be murdered. She’d never intended to be a Justicar or spend two centuries sunk into that hellish cesspit of anger. She never expected to have to fight in a war, and watch her family die. She never expected to have to save the family, and then to have it all fall apart on her, and watch the person she loved more than anything in the universe walk out on her.

      Aethyta, ultimately, set events into motion that she could hardly forsee, and ensured that millions would die. Liara’s stubborn nature only accelerated the process, and even if she had been obedient would not have been able to stop it.

      Would Shepard have died in the Normandy attack – if she just had, jumped into the escape-pod with Joker and Pressly and not minded, if any of the other escape pods had been shot down?

      If Liara had not changed Shepard, Shepard would have lost her mind to the Beacon. Assuming that the Alliance had a mind-healer step in and stop the degradation long enough to let Shepard finish the fight?

      Hard to say. Shepard, even before Liara, was not a person to throw away the lives of her soldiers for no good purpose. She may have made the decision that the Alliance needed to know that the Normandy had been compromised and get detailed scans of the attacker back to them if not for Liara.

      On the other hand, if not for Liara, Shepard would have died at the hands of Rachel Florez. Sort of a moot point.

      4) Why this Cycle – and not the others?

      It has very little to do with this cycle, or anything in the Milky Way at at all, and more to do with the fact that the Leviathans have determined there are now enough Reapers to do battle with the Darkness and have the outcome favor what they want to happen.

      Ultimately, Lethath has manipulated a great many events, tweaked the flow of time and even ‘cheated’ in a few places to make things happen. The Reapers are not incompetent enough to merely overlook the Inusannon and Tho’ian — they were shielded from detection by Lethath without even knowing it. And when the time was right, he adjusted their mental state to begin his plans.

      Inusannon and Tho’ians can laugh off indoctrination because it’s a weak, fake-ass imitation of the real power of the Influence a Leviathan has.

      In the end, this cycle isn’t special. Many of the moving pieces — and the ability to survive what happens in ME3 — is solely due to the intervention of Leviathans.

      They aren’t any better than the others. Merely in the right place at the right time.

      Purge the alien. Kill the heretic. Suffer not the witch to live.

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