Brain Droppings 3

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    • #868
      Mr.Green
      Participant

      A few questions, that had have spiked my interest.

      1) Manipulation and seeing the Fourth Dimension (Aka Time)

      You have written, that the Reapers and Leviathans could see upto the Ninth Dimension, a few less for the Reapers. But couldn’t they seen into the Fourth Dimension – the see, past, present and future stuff.

      Haven’t none been able to simply, look into the future or past – to see WTF was about to happen. How the Reapers war with the Darkness would end. Or the Leviathans, seeing their entire playing ‘god’ would end with everything going F*CK.

      xxx

      (Now for a few, that are downright funny or simply ‘huh?’)

      2) Since asari, are natural biotics and gain extra eezo over their livespans – and have big tits. Is it likely, that eezo is simply accumulating or gathering in their giant mammal-glands? xD.

      xxx

      3) If reality did pop like a soap-bubble in the PremiseVerse universe – how would the average dude comprehend it?

      Would it be a simply, everything fine then BOOM-DIE. Or slowly everything going in the WTF-way.

      xxx

      4) Is that Outsider, actually your hand?

    • #869
      Logical Premise
      Keymaster

      WARNING: SPOILERS. READ AHEAD AT YOUR OWN RISK.

      1) Manipulation and seeing the Fourth Dimension (Aka Time)

      You have written, that the Reapers and Leviathans could see upto the Ninth Dimension, a few less for the Reapers. But couldn’t they seen into the Fourth Dimension – the see, past, present and future stuff.

      Haven’t none been able to simply, look into the future or past – to see WTF was about to happen. How the Reapers war with the Darkness would end. Or the Leviathans, seeing their entire playing ‘god’ would end with everything going F*CK.

      This is one of those warp-level fuckery questions to answer, so … put on your brain hats.

      Being a multidimensional creature is not an experience we can truly understand on some levels. Our brains simply aren’t wired for it. Our understanding of ‘time’ as an arrow is probably simplistic.

      Being able to see into those dimensions is something else again.

      The main difference between things like the Darkness on the one hand, and the Leviathans and Reapers on the other, is that the Darkness is a truly 11-dimension creature. We are only seeing a fragement of it any time, a slice that is present in our section of time and three dimensions.

      Leviathans (and by extension Reapers who are merely weaker, inteferior copies) are NOT four-D or higher-D creatures. They can see, and in some ways affect these forces, but they don’t have the capacity in most cases to move through them.

      By that, I mean to say merely seeing does not give one the ability to perceive clearly. Time is a river consisting of any and every possibility. The best one can do is peer into this and try to determine what will happen, and sometimes clumsily affect things.

      The lower the dimension, however, the more ‘energy’ it takes to fundamentally change how it works. Many of the higher-dimensions are ‘string’ realities, affecting high-order physical concepts like the nature of symmetry itself, or the interaction of time/space.

      (If you REALLY Want to break your head in, here is a thread discussing the ‘listing’ of such dimensions. https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/m-theory-listing-the-11-dimensions.273388/)

      Keep in mind that defining ‘time’ as we do means the understanding of how a being who can see into it is fundamentally off.

      The math is not simple either, but the most pared down I can get it is this:

      For any given value of X of Z, where X is a possible state or action and Z is a given point in time, Y is the intersection of all X of Z across however many units of Z one wishes to view.

      If ‘looking’ at time, and you have a person sitting at a table, reaching for a glass. He might pick it up. He might knock it over. He might just touch it. He might get halfway into the motion and get distracted by the phone. He might be almost touching it when a meteor strikes, or his wife walks into the room asking for him to take out the trash. Each of these values happens, with almost endless variation.

      Like a very wide, fast moving river going in one direction, I think beings of this sort can see the rough outlines of where the river is going, what’s in it, and that kind of thing, whereas we are trapped in it, only able to see the stuff near us and only able to see where we’ve already been.

      The problem comes because of our understanding of time as an arrow, so you could ‘go back’ and change things and have it affect ‘now’, which leads to paradoxes like going back to kill your own grandfather — if you succeeded how were you born to do so in the first place?

      In a river, making changes creates ripples. These ripples in turn create their own alterations. When the Leviathans try to use their sight to change something, it ends up creating many more values of X and many more values of Z, exponantially increasing the amount of Y they have to look through to find what they are seeking.

      The more changes they make, or try to make, the worse the effect gets.

      Here’s the fucked up part : for us, time is stable. For those who can SEE it though, observation results in a collapse of quantum possibility. For example, the old Schrodinger’s Cat theory about a cat in a box with a timed poison capsule being both ‘dead’ and ‘alive’ until the box is opened. Thus, in a quantum sense this gives you a hard value of X of Z. The Cat is either Dead or Not Dead.

      Observing the time-stream collapses that quantum effect. You now know if the cat is dead or alive even before the box is opened. To the 3d observer you were able to see into the future. This is not the case.

      Unfortunately, most situations are NOT so easily paired down into a single value for X of Z. Leviathans can try to ‘collapse’ the quantum state of observation by ‘looking’ at events with a large amount of Y, but the rules of information and energy conservation means that to do so you have to create enough energy to nullify EVERY OTHER possibility of X of Z, or else only partially collapse the quantum foam of such choices.

      In laymans terms (And goddamn it there isn’t such a thing for this kind of crap) If you try to predict the future, you can do so — but only to a degree of knowing general ‘things’ that will happen, and the cost to do so is TREMENDOUS.

      How does this apply to Reapers and Leviathans, or the Darkness?

      Reapers don’t have the skills in manipulating higher-order strings to ‘rob’ energy substrate to pay for fucking around with time. Their limited skills in this regard are limited to playing about with ‘tricks’ to shorten the amount of time they spend on travelling or to throw off targeting.

      Leviathans have much nastier tricks, including ‘plucking’ certain SU3-symmetry strings to cascade quantum collapses in a very short time span — this allows them complete fucking hax like dodging faster than light weapons, being able to hack or penetrate any security, or generating waves of ‘degenerate time’ that would instantly age and kill anything they hit. When it comes to longer range observation, the main drawback is finding ‘paths’ or ‘streams’ of likely events is very diffciult when you see everything that could ever possibly happen everwhen everywhere, and they have to expend considerble energies to collapse this down to a form where they can make predictions.

      Amusingly enough, this quantum uncertainty is why there are three different ‘camps’ of Leviathans. The ‘Bright’ Leviathans, under Lethath itself, the last of the true High Ascended and the asshole responsible for most of this mess, can see ‘the furthest’ and much of what is transpiring is due to their meddling.

      The ‘Secret’ Leviathans are operating out of Hanar space and making deals with unlikely partners. Their views of the future are less concerned about Reapers and more concerned about the unexpected consequences of their defeat.

      Finally, the ‘Black’ Levithans on Khar’Shan, the Dark Gods, are just batshit insane and even I’m not sure what the fuck they think they’re seeing.

      Ultimately, the Darkness itself is not just viewing time, it can move through it, thus it can be anywhere instantly. To it, the outrages that drew it into our space and the war against the High Ascended are contemporaneous. The main reason it doesn’t see the future is that it is the gestalt of a thousand murdered races that were like weaker Ascended, and while it’s power is unbelievably vast its control is shit. It ‘knows’ that a Call is coming and it must respond, but beyond that it is barely even sentient, much less sapient.

      If you want to really break you head in, here is a resource that tries to explain more. (https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-best-way-to-understand-and-visualize-4-dimensional-hyper-cubes-and-11-dimensional-strings-with-the-3D-eye-of-a-human#)

      2) Since asari, are natural biotics and gain extra eezo over their livespans – and have big tits. Is it likely, that eezo is simply accumulating or gathering in their giant mammal-glands? xD.

      …sort of.

      Asari were modified genetically to resemble humans, both to ensure contact was made so that both halves of the Message could be used, and also because there were certain economies of scale better achieved by mammalian than ichthyosaurian concepts.

      Breast-feeding and ensuring a continuing link of resources from mother to child is why, generally speaking, mammals are superior to any egg laying creature in terms of parenting. Offspring requiring such force mothers to remain with and protect the child, while egg-layers have no such impulses, resulting in higher infant mortality.

      Asari mothers breastfeed children and some of the eezo stored in their bodies does move through the milk. (This is also why, hilariously, breast sexplay with asari matrons is strongly not recommended as one human died from eezo poisoning doing this. The moar you know!)

      Eezo in asari is stored in sacs behind the jaw and down into the neck, and then distributed by a secondary distribution system that follows their nerves throughout the body. (More details on this in the Encyclopedia Biotica, I think).

      3) If reality did pop like a soap-bubble in the PremiseVerse universe – how would the average dude comprehend it?

      Would it be a simply, everything fine then BOOM-DIE. Or slowly everything going in the WTF-way.

      There are two ways this could happen — vacuum collapse or energy-substrate exhaustion.

      Ignore the former, as if that happened everything would be dead before you even realized it.

      The latter is what is happening now. To ‘cheat’ the laws of physics, the Leviathians basically violated the laws of energy conservation by drawing in energy from the universal substrate. (The word has much the same concept as in bodily function).

      This substrate is usually not accessible, but with enough manipulation of 10th dimensional strings you can ‘tap’ the strings of other ‘realities’, to so speak, and create a shockwave that transmits energy into your own reality by collapsing sections of the other one into yours.

      We see this effect as dark matter. In effect, dark matter is the amount of ‘used and expended’ dark energy drawn from the substrate.

      Keep in mind that merely using dark energy is NOT cheating — the energy, once here, is stuck here. But for the dimension its being taken from, every time it happens that universe gets closer to vacuum collapse.

      And for THAT google False vacuum and try not to have nightmares for the rest of your life, lol.

      4) Is that Outsider, actually your hand?

      No, that would be too cheesily meta. I’m afraid the Outsider is…much, much worse than that.

      Exposing it at this juncture would be premature, considering that I intend to eventually use it in some of my original fiction.

      Suffice it to say this:

      By definition, everything we know — matter, energy, laws of physics — is maintained by certain laws. These can be bent, twisted, or nullified, or even cheated, but never outright ignored. Other realities have completely different laws, forms of matter, energy states, etc.

      But ultimately any region of space/time/string/quantum foam that is perceivable fits inside this … area.

      The Outsider is from beyond that. From where every physical law is not only mutable, but the primary method of existance. Where energy and matter and anti-matter and entropy are like colors, and where time is like a doorway.

      It is so utterly alien, so completely wrong on every possible level, so far outside what we perceive as possible, that even nightmare-level godshit like C’thulhu, the Flood, Yawgmoth, Time Lords — none of that shit would even tickle it.

      The Outsider is literal UnMaking, worse than even Azathoth or Yog-Sogoth, worse than the Downstreamers or the C’Tan. It is corrosive quantum entropic decay … given a malicious, hateful and above all else predatory intellect.

      You can’t fight it, and you can’t run from it, only hide. And the main thing it hunts is the debris left by sentient beings playing with the laws of physics…

      Purge the alien. Kill the heretic. Suffer not the witch to live.

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