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  • in reply to: Brain Droppings 15 #1271
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    1) How representative is the Shadow Broker of Yahg as a species?

    Due to issues with spoilers, the STG report on the current Broker won’t come out until he’s dead. His name I can reveal: Ty’tra’yect, or roughly, “Rage of Elegant Death”

    In general, however:

    Yagh are not a numerous species. There’s less than twenty million of them, all told. The Broker was, before his capture by the previous Broker’s forces, one of the most powerful yahg on the planet. There is one stronger yahg still on Parnack (with seven fucking names, which is like Chuck Norris + He-Man + Charles Bronson) but even by yagh standards Ty’tra’yect is an amoral asshole.

    In terms of physical ability, Ty’tra’yect is the asshole you see at the gym who is lifting more shit than you weight but never breaks a sweat. He’s pretty much the Ahern+Kyle of the Yahg species. The old Broker had crazy ideas of cloning him and implanting the clones with mind control chips until Ty’tra’yect ate him.

    Most yahg fall into two camps of thought: the weak should be food, or the weak are irrelevant. “Good” yahg fall into the latter group and are the majority, but most yagh leadership and military forces fall into the former group.

    When Ty’tra’yect vanished, a bunch of yahg pretty much said ‘good riddance’

    2) Who is Almnrut? The character is mentioned by Tetrimus in ATTWN as a possible replacement for Tazzik and the Broker dismisses the idea with a growl and hand wave. Surprisingly emotional reaction for Broker when making what is effectively a logistical or HR call. Could it be personal? Does the Broker have a fellow Yahg on board, or even a mate? Or is this just a throwaway comment on their behalf, the kind that those two would have dozens of times a day when running the whole Broker network, and I’m pondering nothing here? Is the Broker even capable of having what we would recognise as normal relationships and a personal life? I rather enjoy seeing a little snippet of the deeply personal when we see the Broker/Tetrimus/Tazzik/Illusive Man/etc, but always at the edge of frame and subtly implied. It’s bittersweet in a way.

    Almnrut is an asshole. He will be revealed towards the end of of Arc III.

    The Broker himself is … weird. He pretty much raised Tazzik, but is willing to dispose of him in a heartbeat over failure. “Friendship” is not a term yahg use for most people until the other has had a chance to kill you for profit and has declined to do so.

    The Broker sees himself as a chessmaster, and his people are playing pieces, not companions. That being said, Almnrut is probably more dangerous in certain ways than the Broker or Tetrimus, given what he is.

    No spoilers. 😀

    3) Have any factions or players encountered the Black Leviathans or gotten a taste of what’s really happening in the Lake of Black? Even at a distance or by creepy pasta proxy. If I ever requested an STG report it’d be a tossup between one on the Shadow Broker and one on Lake of Black/Pillars of Strength/Batarian Emperor/Imperial Caste.

    haha no.

    The Black Leviathans are, in a phrase, batfuck insane. They were directly exposed to the worst of the fighting with the Darkness and didn’t take it well (not to mention they were beaten half to death).

    The STG, AIS, and other groups have tried many, many times to infiltrate the Black Palace or the Lake of Black. Not a single mission has succeeded. Not a single operative has returned.

    There’s five Leviathans in the Lake of Black — anything getting within five hundred miles is detected. All non-batarians in that range have their minds instantly wiped and drained of knowledge, then the Black Levithans basically warp them into the sun.

    Yours is a cool scenario if the Black Leviathans were sane. But they aren’t. They’re preparing for the Reapers, and the rest of the inhabitants of the galaxy actually don’t concern them at all, except for Katha.

    4) Okay, last one, I swear. So we’ve discussed Vigil quite a bit and you’ve mentioned how he’s not entirely reliable. He’s a troll created by trolls and his programming and perspectives are limited. What I’m wondering is just how much of his advice, narrative and even his own memories is suspect? Is what he remembers of the Inussanon accurate, or even real? How much has been edited? The more we see of Vigil the more he seems like he’s not entirely stable or healthy. He’s this incredible picotech creation engine…and he and his creators have had the shit kicked out them regardless. He’s still so arrogant and dismissive. I wonder if the Inussanon were really what he remembers them to be. If he and they really had hundreds of thousands of years to prepare for the Reaper invasion, surely they could have literally filled the galaxy with Inusannon death-ships and war-forms. They would have outnumbered the Reapers 10 000 to 1, right? Something is missing. What do you guys think?

    The Inusannon and Tho’ian beat the Reapers harder than any other race has since the Reapers were created. One on one, an Inusannon battleship was more powerful than a Greater Reaper… until you threw in the Godpower.

    The fact is that the Inusannon lost mostly due to the Reapers using Godpower. On a technological basis the Inusannon weren’t that far behind the Reapers. Their own sequestration abilities made indoctrination useless, and they didn’t rely on relays for travel which made fighting them a mess for the Reapers.

    Ultimately, remember — the Inusannon main fleet was destroyed, but the bulk of the Inusannon people just vanished. They were NOT defeated by the Reapers. If the war had gone to it’s bitter end, the Reapers would have won… but it’s very likely they would have had to abandon their works in several galaxies to keep the scale of the Godpower used quiet, and they might have failed.

    Vigil has not yet realized that he himself is being trolled by his creators. On the other hand, Vigil is very important to the Inusannon, and when everything is over they’ll apologize to him for the deception.

    Vigil took way more than a fifth of the resources of the Inusannon — pretty much ALL of the resources of both the Inusannon and the Tho’ian went into making him.

    Most of his arrogance and dismissive nature stems from the mess that was the Prothean fight against the Reapers. The Protheans stole alot of shit from Ilos that was intended for other purposes and wasted most of it in a hopeless fight.

    Purge the alien. Kill the heretic. Suffer not the witch to live.

    in reply to: Ascendancy Humanity #1270
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    But he didn’t indoctrinate the entire civilization. Doing so would have tipped the Reapers off.

    He indoctrinated the leaders near him, but for the most part what he did was less mind control and more ‘don’t think about me’.

    Reaper indoctrination is the most pitiful bad imitation of Leviathan indoctrination. The Old Ones were dominating hundreds of galaxies for millions of years, and people were happy, inventive, and not slowly brain-farting themselves to death like the Reaper version.

    While Reapers can only make you into a retard, Katha can delfect attention, literally make people forget about entire sectors, or alter memories.

    The Protheans who worked on the Athame Project and the Mars Archive were disconnected from the military command structure that Katha influenced in any event.

    Purge the alien. Kill the heretic. Suffer not the witch to live.

    in reply to: Degenerate Matter weaponry. #1269
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    Pretty powerful. Although…you can’t really measure it by the gram.

    Degenerate matter weapons are on the high scale of damage, as they cause severe impact damage, huge temperatures, radiation, and inflict several thousand G’s at detonation.

    There are three degen-matter weapons. Neutronium flex explosives, like the Kyle class torpedo, and operate primarily by re-expansion of the neutronium and destabilization of local space time due to intense gravitic distortion.

    Quark-degenerate devices, which use a pile of collapsed-string quark strange matter. Anything this weapon hits tends to undergo a shift from normal to strange quarks… which tends to reverse the strong nuclear force of the object hit. You can imagine what that does.

    Finally, electron degenerate implication beams, which cause instant collapses of matter waaaaaaaay beyond the Bose-Einstein limit. This basically instantly pushes the target beyond the Chandrasekhar limit.

    Yes, it’s basically a black-hole generator.

    Purge the alien. Kill the heretic. Suffer not the witch to live.

    in reply to: Night Kiss #1268
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    Was it that obvious? Huh. I have to be sneakier.

    As an aside, THE Midnight’s Kiss used to be one of the unit Midnight’s Kiss.

    Purge the alien. Kill the heretic. Suffer not the witch to live.

    in reply to: Ascendancy Humanity #1252
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    Probably not.

    The primary reason the hanar acted to process the drell was that Katha told them to. He had ‘observed’ the various races remotely and was well aware of the situation on Kahje.

    The hanar were perfectly content to let the drell die, otherwise.

    Also keep in mind, the hanar were discovered by the drell almost five thousand years ago, before the other races had even developed spaceflight.

    The hanar haven’t done much roaming around en masse since the asari took to the stars.

    Katha would not, I suspect, have bothered to interfere with the humans. In the current day and age, the technology used to salvage the situation would have been … difficult to keep hidden.

    I’m also not sure the situation would have been as analogous. Drell have a natural tendency towards sublimation, reverence of older figures, and mysticism. Humans are independent, stubborn and improvisation.

    Evacuation of the humans would have presented other issues, given that the hanar would have had to leave some behind, and they could have managed to hang on to bits of civilization for some time (like the valkhana drell did).

    While it is an interesting scenario, it’s not one I really developed. Most of my ‘changes’ are intended to fit between the existing lines of known canon, or to tweak a single value and see where it leads.

    Having the humans join the Hanar would require the hanar expending a great deal of time and energy on uplifting them to the proper technological level and conditioning them. Remember, Katha had eons to tinker with the hanar and a good few thousand years to ‘adjust’ drell populations before they had their first interactions with independant alien star empires.

    Given what’s in the Mars Archive, once Katha processed it, he probably would have had it removed, then slagged the relay.

    Purge the alien. Kill the heretic. Suffer not the witch to live.

    in reply to: Discussing the latest chapter #1233
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    Petrovsky?

    He’s a better general than von Grath is, and he’s a nightmare in a heavy fighter.

    In personal combat he’s not that much. He wasn’t ever an N-series marine, started out as a naval officer and only did a two year tour of duty as an A-rate for his combat TAB.

    Purge the alien. Kill the heretic. Suffer not the witch to live.

    in reply to: Reaper hull armor #1222
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    The Great Reapers are unable to exist without minor exorcise of the Godpower. Even after they are ‘killed’, this influence remains, streaming backwards and forwards in time.

    I could explain it with math, if anyone is REALLY that interested, but the simple way to put it is that the netronium layer was phase stablized for eternity, and only another act of Godpower would breach that.

    To be more specific, the main damage the phase-destablization device (The Crucible) would do is negating all ongoing Godpower effects over the Reapers. That would result in an instant Bose-Einstein collapse too fast for the Reapers to react, and the neutronium would collapse and then destablize … violently.

    The weird phenomena have to do with the arrow of time being messed up. Godpower is the cessation of natural law. It insults what we think we understand, makes time act like a color, distance like an echo. Minds and psyches without the capacity to grasp it instinctively reject it and replace it with something their mind can handle…or go quietly insane.

    Purge the alien. Kill the heretic. Suffer not the witch to live.

    in reply to: Reaper hull armor #1215
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    I think its compressed bullshit – made with Godpower.

    LMAO

    Purge the alien. Kill the heretic. Suffer not the witch to live.

    in reply to: Reaper hull armor #1214
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    It’s actually a composite of various materials and methods, in three layers.

    The outer layer is a thick shell of programmable matter, that reconfigures itself based on limited (four to six seconds) ‘look ahead’ into the timeline to absorb or negate damage. Against kinetic attacks it is a shock absorber, against anti-matter it generates a powerful magnetic repulsive field, against lasers it is reflective, etc.

    The middle layer is hypercompressed wurtzite boron nitride interlaced with diamond nanotubes. This is energized in a hexagonical lattice by a variation of the kinetic barrier technology used by most species, although this version is point of impact.

    The inner layer is a quarter-inch thin layer of phase stabilized neutronium, held in place by the tiniest bit of Godpower and the oversized mass effect core of the Reaper. This inner layer doesn’t cover the entire inside of the Reaper, only the critical areas, and accounts for a THIRD of the mass of the entire Reaper.

    Really, only degenerate matter, strange matter, extremely high energy attacks via magnetohydrodynamic burst, or anti-particle weapons do any significant damage.

    The hull material that breaks off (and is used in shepard’s sword) is the middle layer.

    Purge the alien. Kill the heretic. Suffer not the witch to live.

    in reply to: Brain Droppings 13: Bastard Ahern and Salarian #1209
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    Delan is permanently linked to Katha, so is Farmas the Pimp Lord.

    Ithorex’s phase jump allows him to phase almost anything to a marker beacon. The black coral structures are actually a call to Katha, who tells him the physical location of the target. Ithorex just slashes a monomolecular blade at the target then goes back into the main store and be seen.

    He had to get a bit fancier with the guy in FTL, phasing an entire torpedo with a timer of 2 seconds into the path of the ship.

    Purge the alien. Kill the heretic. Suffer not the witch to live.

    in reply to: Brain Droppings 13: Bastard Ahern and Salarian #1207
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    Delan is the hanar version of Ahern. And hoo boy, he’s modified to fuck and beyond, including a nifty little device that pretty much nullifies most direct biotic attacks — it would stop a flare or a Beam, but not a piece of metal thrown with biotics.

    He’s also got a weapon that’s pretty much a man-portable Prism Lance, and he’s got a built in teleportal device that lets him jump all over the fucking place.

    Tetrimus would have to rely on his actual military skills, cybernetics, speed and weapons to take him out, using kinetics to corral him, and I’m not 100% who would win TBH.

    Tetrimus could PROBABLY drop Ithorex the Unready in a single fight, even with Ithorex’s bullshit phase jump crap.

    Purge the alien. Kill the heretic. Suffer not the witch to live.

    in reply to: Vigil & Inusannon/Thoi'han technology #1205
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    1) To what extent does the Destiny Ascension being an Inusannon/Prothean flagship affect past/future events, or would have affected Sovereign’s attack on the Citadel if it were merely the most advanced contemporary technology based dreadnought? Does Vigil have any plans or control over it?

    The Protheans salvaged the ship from Eingana, at terrifying expense, and it was shot down in what became asari space. The asari found it and rebuilt it again, on top of what was already there — that’s also how they got ahold of the missiles.

    It’s not particularly important except that Vigil made sure to point it out to the Protheans to troll Nazara with. He was delighted when he found the asari did the same thing…and he’s not in control of it, but he does have a tracking nodule aboard.

    So that if this cycle loses, he can point the wreck out to the Yahg for maximum trollage.

    2) Did the Inusannon interact with humanity at all (I believe you mentioned some Inusannon tech being at the Mars Archives)?

    Only indirectly. Vigil was part of why the Archives were there and why things went down the way they did on Thessia, but more will be made clear in the next chapter.

    Suffice it to say, the Inusannon themselves didn’t know (or care) humanity existed.

    3) To what extent does the lack of Inusannon visibility in 15,000 years also connected to the disappearance of the salarians, krogan, hanar, batarians, and elcor?

    You mean in Fear Unrelenting?

    Not much. Most of those cultures simply collapsed over the years. By the time Fear unrelenting rolls around, the salarians were long dead from too much DNA tampering, the batarians got destroyed by Shepard for trying to violate the Severity, the hanar…eh, spoilers, and the elcor simply stopped participating in galactic society after a certain point, mostly returning to Elkunna and taking up a non-technological lifestyle.

    The krogan… it’s not relevant to the story, really, but Okeer had a statis clone set up on a remote worksite and it woke up a couple of thousand years after the Reaper wars and tried to infiltrate and take over krogan culture. This lead to a civil war that decimated the race and ruined most of Tuchanka. A few million krogan made it off world and their few colonies survived but they were too broken to have (or need) a council rep.

    Purge the alien. Kill the heretic. Suffer not the witch to live.

    in reply to: The beginning of Delacor going bad? #1204
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    It pretty much happens not too long from now.

    Purge the alien. Kill the heretic. Suffer not the witch to live.

    in reply to: Brain Droppings 13: Bastard Ahern and Salarian #1203
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    1) Speculaiton: Ahern’ badassery.

    How badass stank is this mofo? It has been written, that this guy, if need be could go against Tetrimus with a single pistol and likely come off with only a broken leg at worst.

    Namely what was said threat against Thana T’Armal – if HE had to save HER. Namely the most powerful asari/person in the Galaxy?

    LOL no. Ahern is the Mary Sue line — he is the best a normal, unaugmented living being can go in terms of badassery.

    Tetrimus would turn Ahern into a fucking smear. He’d have to work a little, but he’d still win. NO one except the Broker, Delaynder, and MAAAAYBE the High Solarch can solo Tetrimus… and all three of them would barely survive in a one-on-one fight.

    Aria lost her shit at one point and hired a mixed team of Remembrance Dancers, salarian technosavants, drugged up Eclipse girls and a heavily cybernetically converted krogan to kill off her mother. Ahern had to drop the salarians and then the krogan while Tela took on the Dancers (along with the House Guard).

    Ahern ended up going hand to hand with a krogan stronger than Grunt and almost got killed, lucking out with a grenade.

    2) Speculation: Ahern for Ruler?

    Its been stated in your STG Report – that he has many life-debts and offers of service, from various asari houses and even to become a Spectre.

    If push came to shove, how much could Ahern fuck the Alliance over?

    Plus what would happen, if Ahern decided to accept offer of service from House T’Armal or Vasir? Epic chaos or anarchy? Or party?

    Ahern is strictly, almost religously non-political just for the above reasons. He could, in theory, do a lot of damage to the Alliance.

    Ahern wouldn’t take any offer of service from the Asari. He likes Tela and some asari but thinks their culture is a mess and is too old to care about their sexual crap.

    3) Speculation: Ahern vs Preator

    Him versus big cheese of the Hierarchy. And everybody seems to make a big deal of it.

    How big a deal is it to the STG or persay Asari? If he CAN hold his own against the current leader of the Hierarchy?

    Hahahahahah no. That shit wouldn’t even be funny. Ahern vs. the High Primarch is an ugly fight, they sparred once and while Ahern held is own, he was in the hospital for two days afterwards, while the Primarch was fine after twenty minutes.

    4) Speculation: Salarian ‘chipping’ sniper tactics?

    Why did it say under Ahern’ STG file, namely about sniper tactics. That salarians use chipping tactics of kinetic barries?

    Doesn’t that defeat the purpose of a sniper? I mean, if you keep shooting at the same target and simply ‘not killing it’, doesn’t that mean your more liable to be a targeted and killed yourself?

    Doesn’t the entire idea of a sniper is ‘one shot, one kill’ – or being a recon unit. The chipping idea, likely also suggests it takes likely more than one shot to take down a kinetic barrier. So? Aren’t salarians all about ‘maximum efficiency’?

    What’s up with the salarians on this? Why not go for ‘one shot and kill’ tactic – like perhaps one certain turian sniper? Or human snipers in that matter?

    Again, salarians aren’t humans (or turians).

    Salarians see snipers as pressure units and sowers of chaos, but primarily as inhibitors. Sure, they have no problems sniping at officers one shot one kill style, but they are highly mobile (very, very fast), heavily cloaked and stealthed, and focused more on ensuring that the Shieldbreakers don’t have anything to stop their momentum.

    Salarian snipers use chip tactics when facing a dug in foe who is good at defence. They combine sniper shots with infowar, drones, grenades, and movement tactics, and their goal is to soften up a target for a single shot kill. Salarians have a fixation with precision, not firepower — while they do prize efficency, they would rather have three snipers combine to have a 100% kill chance than one guy on his lonesome with a chance of it not working.

    5) Speculation: Ahern surviving a swamp

    I also read, that Ahern survived being stuck in a rad-filled swamp. And the salarians thought that was badass, how?

    Aren’t they like, from a swamp themselves or anything? They seem it rather ‘spectacular’ compared to like – surviving an orbital bombardment or fighting of Deathwatch or a Spectre even.

    I’m guessing you haven’t read Lions. It’s not just a swamp, it’s a swamp after crashing after a nuke airburst, with no modern equipment, no medigel, no omnitools, no sealed armor, and outnumbered fifteen to one with an armada storm (think radioactive stormcloud/hurrican that spits out waterspouds) coming at you.

    Ahern was one of less than three hundred survivors and (along with Anderson’s team and the others in his group) the only team to actually complete the exercise.

    6) Speculation: First STG Order

    What was the first STG Order ever given to the STG?

    Was it namely, stop the salarians from ‘f*cking around’? Or simply, ‘make sure nothing happens to the Union’?

    This is actually in the salarian history document, but it was the obliteration of the League of One before they could destroy the Asari just after the discovery of the Citadel.

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    in reply to: Vigil & Inusannon/Thoi'han technology #1192
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    Not sure if people had questions about that or not

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