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  • in reply to: Interrogative Verification 6: Lethath edition #1584
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    This can all be cleared up by point out that Lenath, the strongest of the Ascended after the All-Highest, is not the same as Lethath.

    Lenath was the Rider of the Echo of Wrath. (And was eventually partially made into Harbinger.)

    Katha and the Black Leviathans were far too busy fighting to do anything to Lethath during the first few days, and Lethath’s Godpower tricks were all that kept them in the war for some time. Katha did not know Lethath was responsible for the catastrophe until nearly the end of the war when the Ascended military broke.

    Everything else is Dave.

    Purge the alien. Kill the heretic. Suffer not the witch to live.

    in reply to: Interrogative Verification 5 #1572
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    1. Darkness in 3D eye

    Given their higher dimensional state, what does the Darkness, and by extension the Outsider and inhabitants of the Below/Outside, look to the perception of 3D creatures such as Humans?

    Not much of anything, actually. The Darkness actually deconstructs photons and looking directly at it usually results in outright insanity.

    Without spoilers, the only reason it’s manifestation at the end of ME3 didn’t literally kill every mortal in a ten light year radius was due to Lethath and Katha.

    2. Bastard Children

    Given Batarian sexuality, does any bastard children between Imperial and low-caste batarians exist? If so, how are they treated? Should the child show promise would he be given a chance into the ranks of the Imperial family.

    Given batarian social structure that’s not even a thing. A child can only be high caste if they demonstrate all marks of high caste physiology, which are all recessive.

    Half-breeds of any kind are usually low-mid or mid castes, but given that 99% of them come about from rapes (consented to by a lower-caste husband as an honor to the high caste or nonconsentual) the reality is that there is no reason for a high caste to *care* about his offspring that are not from his tracked mates.

    Under no circumstances do Imperials mate with anything below the purest of high caste females, in strictly regimented interactions. All other sexual release is done through non-batarian slaves. IF such a thing were to happen, the Imperial in question would be immolated and the entire population where the mother came from blasted to space dust.

    3. Threats against the Reapers
    4. Inter-Universal communication
    5. Life Creation
    6. Reality Anchors

    These are all Dave, Monolith, or worse questions.

    7. Katha with Humanity

    Would there be any difference if the planet hibernated upon is Earth and not Khaje, henceforth it would be humanity under him instead of the Hanar. How would such thing change Human civilisation. Should we go by the same route (genetic tampering and Ascended tech), would his strategy be the same and take a more ‘active’ role in galactic affairs?

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    I have no idea.

    There seems to be this concept (and it’s not just you) that for some reason I have modeled out or given any thought to all kinds of strange perversions of my core ideas and story concepts.

    The answer to almost all these sorts of questions is going to be the same:

    1) If it involves canon, I literally do not give even the slightest possible fuck.

    2) If it involves changes to the bedrock of my setting, then I haven’t bothered thinking about it and see no point in doing so.

    3) If it involves huge alterations to the framework of the concept (what if Shepard wasn’t messed up? What if TIM was indoctrinated? What if whatever) then I almost certainly did think about it at some level and rejected it, and I’m not interested in rehashing it.

    4) If the concept involves something off the wall from some other media then it is almost certain I haven’t and won’t bother thinking much about it.

    For the most part, these sort of alternative questions don’t actually provide anything. I obviously haven’t though about it in any length, and any answer I give is hardly more authoritative than anyone elses.

    Purge the alien. Kill the heretic. Suffer not the witch to live.

    in reply to: Technological Justifications #1571
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    *sighs*

    Smashing a pair of superstrings together wouldn’t leave much of the Local Group.

    As for the second, the Severity doesn’t directly restrict Godpower usage, or the Leviathans and Reapers would be in trouble.

    It makes it extremely difficult to generate and get started (to prevent races from finding out about it) and it muffles the ‘noise’ and ‘smell’ using it makes.

    What you are describing are reality anchors, devices that ‘refold’ higher dimensional spaces out of the way again so that they can’t be accessed.

    Once a Godpower invocation has been … built and triggered, there’s nothing aside from another one that’s going to stop it, as it pretty much makes a mockery of any rules of conventional physics or Euclidian space.

    Purge the alien. Kill the heretic. Suffer not the witch to live.

    in reply to: Cerberus Shepard (revised) #1570
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    Given that it would result in a completely different person, it would no longer be the Shepard I built.

    Not only would that COMPLETELY miss the entire point of making Shepard that way, but she would just be another little Miranda.

    Not sure why people think this sort of question is interesting (and you aren’t the first to ask). In any event, it’s not something I thought about nor do I intend to, as it invalidates the point of what I’m writing about.

    I’m very tired of reading about plain, wholesome, normal mentally well adjusted white-male-hetro Shepard, or his female twin alter ego, Lesbian-Female-Shepard.

    Purge the alien. Kill the heretic. Suffer not the witch to live.

    in reply to: Indoctrination Levels #1562
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    There are three levels of indoctrination: Infected, Compromised, Corrupted.

    RULES:

    The ground rules of indoctrination in the PV are as follows:

    ANY level of indoctrination will eventually progress to full level three. The mean time until this happens is a function of species, materials, cybernetics, and time.

    Indoctrination cannot be ‘repaired’ or ‘fixed’, only delayed. Tho’ian spores can destroy the picotech infection element but the mental and psychological damage is still there, although it will not progress further. Even so, any exposure to further Reaper tech that generates an Indoctrination field will immediately continue the process.

    Leviathans can remove Indoctrination, but the same rules apply — additional exposure will pick up almost exactly where it left off.

    Indoctrination is damaging to mental stability, reasoning, and sanity, while boosting raw intellect and high-order mathematical ability in early stages. As it progresses the subject becomes less and less capable of intellectual thought, free action, or logic.

    There is no ‘safe’ level of indoctrination. Once exposure crosses the threshold for level one, even if the subject is no longer exposed to Reaper tech of any kind, infection STILL proceeds at 100X the length.

    MEAN TIME TO INFECTION:

    The time it takes to become indoctrinated varies based on four factors:

    Species: each species in the PV has a varying level of resistance, of how long they can be exposed to qualifying Reaper tech before level one indoctrination sets in. These times are CUMULATIVE, not ADDITIVE.

    Non sentient life: twenty minutes to one hour
    Salarians: four hours
    Volus, Quarians, Elcor: eight hours
    Asari: Nine hours
    Humans: ten hours
    Turians: twenty hours
    Yahg, Krogan: twenty five hours
    Drell: Thirty five hours
    Vorcha: twenty days
    Hanar: Six months (roughly)
    Tho’ian Thralls (non-Vorcha) : Fifteen months
    Tho’ian Thralls (vorcha) : three years
    Geth and most AI systems: forty five years
    Adaptive AI (EDI, EVA, Vigil) : six to seven decades
    Inusannon, Tho’ians: centuries
    Beings under Leviathan Influence: Immune
    Leviathans: Immune

    Cybernetics: Any level of cybernetics increases the mean time to conversion, as the picotech that reformats beings has to adapt to both biological and technological systems.

    For each 10% that a being is cybernetically converted, they gain another two hours of exposure, up to 70% at 14 hours. Full conversion cyborgs (above 70%) get a flat 20 hours of resistance.

    Nanoware Immune Systems: a nanoware immune system booster adds another five hours of safe exposure.

    Field Strength: The strength of the infection source counts as well:

    Reaper hull material, buildings, and husks are not infective.

    Reaper technology of any kind: twice the listed speeds.

    Direct contact with a Reaper (distance of one mile or more): 1.5x the listed speed

    Direct contact with a Reaper (within one mine but not inside the Reaper): listed speed

    Direct contact inside a Reaper: 75% of listed speed

    Direct contact inside a Greater Reaper: 50% of listed speed

    Direct contact (touch) with an Eternal Pyramid: instant, if the pyramid is activated. Otherwise, 50% of listed speed.

    MEAN TIME TO PROGRESSION:

    Times above are doubled for Level Two and quadrupled for level three.

    EXAMPLE:

    A salarian researcher with no modifiers studies Reaper CPU tech directly. As this is just tech, he would be indoctrinated to level 1 after eight hours, level 2 after an additional sixteen hours, and level three after an additional thirty two hours, for a total time of 56 hours.

    A human full conversion cyborg with a nanoimmune booster implant and studying the same tech would suffer level 1 at 70 hours, level two at 140 hours, and level 3 at 280 hours, for a total time of roughly twenty days.

    A turian with 50% cybernetics reaches level one indoctrination and then is removed from all Reaper influence. He would reach level two automatically in 250 days and level three in about a year and a half. (In canon, this is what happened to Rana Thanoptis, albeit more slowly).

    LEVEL ONE: (Whispering)

    The first level of indoctrination is one of mental vulnerability. The victim is plagued by whispering voices and unexplained urges, emotional instability, and a feeling of helplessness.

    Those infected are unable to effectively attack Reapers directly, although they can still give orders counter to Reaper wishes and combat husks and other war forms.

    Level one indoctrination benefits hand-eye coordination, and deadens pain response to some degree. As a side effect, the picotech infection tends to kill any non-beneficial infections in the host, even late stage cancers. In the past, Reapers have used this as a method to indoctrinate populations slowly with ‘miracle cures’.

    Level one indoctrination usually allows a being to go about their daily lives with only a minimal disruption, although they will be very short tempered.

    LEVEL TWO: (Lost)

    The second level begins converting the structure of the infected. They tend to become highly irrational, paranoid and unwilling to interact with non-Indoctrinated personnel.

    At this phase, they are unable to resist Reaper direct commands, and will work towards Reaper goals. Reapers can override their physical actions if they are within line of sight.

    Level two infected always have a voice urging them to do certain tasks, and a Reaper can communicate directly with the infected if they are within fifty light years.

    Level two infected are increasingly difficult to work with for normal people, as paranoia and mental instability begin to be a problem.

    LEVEL THREE: (Corrupted)

    Onset of level three usually comes with violence, mental breakdowns and instability. After a few days, this calms, and the being’s last free will is now gone. They are little more than a disguised husk, totally in thrall to the Reaper.

    Once level three is achieved, the picotech element of the infection begins converting the body of the infected. If a Reaper wishes, the victim is converted into the husk form of their race within seventy-two hours.

    Level three infected are vulnerable to EMP disruption, which damages their nervous system, which is now almost entirely Reaper.

    THE INFLUENCE:

    The Leviathan version of indoctrination is much more benign, although far more insidious in control. It also progresses almost immediately : even full conversion cyborgs and vorcha can only resist for two hours.

    The Influence only has one level of control. Once in place, the affected has no ability to disobey the Leviathan in any way (although they may offer opinions counter to Leviathan wishes if they truly believe them to be in the Leviathan’s best interest).

    The Influence makes a being believe that Leviathans are gods, that they are worthy of worship, and that anything that opposes them is wrong.

    A Leviathan can take over any being under the Influence, regardless of range, and either speak through them or puppet them completely. Due to this, they are effectively immune to torture.

    Beings under the Influence CANNOT be indoctrinated, controlled by Inusannon mind-control, or infected with Tho’ian Spores.

    Purge the alien. Kill the heretic. Suffer not the witch to live.

    in reply to: Interrogative Verification 4 #1559
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    Keymaster

    1. Starship size

    What are the factors determining the size of a starship during construction? From the many works i’ve come across it’s both power source and structural integrity. How and why would one race bother with making larger ships when there’s the popular term ‘Bigger is not always practical’

    There are (in real life) always tradeoffs in ship size. A smaller ship, by definition, is cheaper to build and operate, faster and more maneuverable, and typically requires much less crew. On the other hand, they cannot absorb much damage, have very small envelopes for any kind of equipment failure, cannot operate for long periods of time away from port due to supply issues, and can’t carry heavy weapons, fighters, scanning arrays, or anything else a larger ship could.

    The bigger factor in the Mass Effect universe (and any variants) is that (despite the bullshit scene in ME3) only so many ships can traverse a mass relay at one time. Due to jump drift and spin up time, a single larger ship can bring more power to bear instantly than a large number of smaller ships.

    On defense, a fleet of smaller ships is useful and hard to beat. Smaller and more defensive races (elcor, volus, drell, quarians) rarely build much above heavy cruiser sizes. To project power or operate at all, you need heavy ships, like dreadnaughts, battle cruisers and the like, which are so expensive to operate that only the big players have more than ten.

    2. Genetic threshold

    In genetic modifications, is there a certain limit that determines how much mods one can take? This part is spurred in the case of the Hanar; Katha didn’t seem to bother to not make them stronger than what they are now? For genetically ‘flexible’ species’, how much can their DNA tolerate before being wrecked?

    There isn’t much point in comparing what Katha can do to normal science. All dual and quad strand DNA was designed by the Leviathans, and even in this fallen era and with him being a general, Katha knows more about the building blocks of life than any non-Leviathan ever will. Suffice it to say that gross analysis of the hanar doesn’t show everything he did to them.

    In general there are two limits. Races that are modified heavily from their baseline origins (like salarians and turians) have almost no real flexibility in their genetics without tradeoffs, while races that were only lightly modded or unmodded at all (humans, volus, elcor) can do a lot more. The more modified a race becomes, the less they can do.

    The absolute limits are mostly based on how much strain the improvements put upon the being’s immune, glandular and metabolic systems. Upgrading intellect past a certain point results in nerve degeneration, upgrading speed or strength requires much more food and water intake, etc.

    3. Severity Field composition

    What basically composes the Severity field? I know that it’s energy but what kind and how? Does it also double as a barrier for anyone inside save for the Reapers? What are its mechanics?

    The Severity is a modified version of what humans will eventually call a Scranton Reality Anchor. It functions primarily by generating 11-dimensionsal sine-strings in counterharmonic frequency to the actual frequency of the eleventh dimension. This has a ‘ripple’ effect that causes all other dimensions above the fourth to ‘curl’ more tightly.

    While this does not block a sufficient Godpower invokation from happening, it does damp down heavily on the ‘noise’ it makes. Depending on the strength and number of sine-strings, it can also make it utterly impossible for beings without a full understanding of Godpower capable of using it.

    At full strength the Severity contracts dimensions so tightly and is so out of phase with ‘reality’ that Godpower simply fails to function. Devices that rely on it simply will not work. Beings that draw up on it in order to live would be … discorporated violently.

    It is amusing to note that the results of such a discorporation would be a swirled mess of dark energy, dark matter, baryonic debris and fast-time eddies…which almost exactly match what the Scourge looks like in ME:A. I didn’t discuss this with anyone, so someone is clearly looking at the same scientific papers I am at BW, which is an excellent thing.

    4. Ascended era

    What’s life like during the reign of the Ascended? Given their nature, I can only imagine it to be very totalitarian. Had any thrall races attempted rebellions or the Ascended Unmade them before that even happened?

    For the most part the Leviathans did not care what their thralls did as long as they gave proper worship. Races showing hints of ability to use Godpower were either made into priest-races, or obliterated.

    Not in seven millions years did any race attempt to rebel. By himself, the All-Highest was so powerful in mental strength that nothing within ten megaparsecs of Ilthar could even comprehend revolt or disobedience.

    5. Outside = The Warp?

    This is something that’s been swinging in my head for some time. Is the Outisde the PV’s equivalent of the Warhammer franchise’s Warp, ’cause as you’ve said the inhabitants are… not so benign? And what keeps Universes isolated from this region?

    The Warp would be light snacks to most shit in the Below.

    As for Outside, that’s a Monolith question. Amusingly, the main defense our kind of reality has against the Outside is the Outsider. We don’t even have the concepts or math to describe Outside. It might be Hell. Or worse than Hell. It’s wherever the Event Horizon went to and came back from.

    6. Cerberus docs

    The most important actually since i’m doing broad researches right now for my pet-project. When you were writing them, what aspect shapes their entire civilisation? My current hypothesis is that it’s the psychology section since it defines the thinking which shapes society.

    Not really. I would strongly suggest picking up some books on cultural anthropology. Most of the time we actually know almost nothing about the psychology of ancient people.

    The two defining pieces are always how the race is structured culturally, and what sets them as unique. I work that out before anything else. It is not as simple as giving a race a ‘hat’, something I despise, but it is defining why they are not simply blue humans, or birdlike humans, or angry humans.

    Culturally, I tend to take two ancient human cultures, spin them, reverse a few things, then add bits based on observations of their artwork in the games.

    Psychology should come and be shaped by the culture. That is, it doesn’t work that way in real life, but its easier to define the psychology once you have the culture in place. I write it up before the culture sections since it makes it easier to understand the cultures, but chronologically I do culture and physiology before psychology.

    In some cases physiology plays a role as well.

    Purge the alien. Kill the heretic. Suffer not the witch to live.

    in reply to: Misc. Curiosity 2 #1546
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    1,2,3 and 4 are Dave questions. 8 is a chandra.

    Vol Prime is the supermassive spacestation in orbit around Irune designed for non-volus inhabitants and the Corporate Court.

    6. No. Red Sand requires inhalation and all hanar in war environments wear environmentally sealed warsuits.

    7. The vortha are an alien race in the Sculptor Galaxy.

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    in reply to: Misc. Curiosity #1537
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    Asari can be raised as humans with zero difficulty. Batarian males and salarian males can be raised with very minor difficulty, although neither will have their races views on sexuality or females.

    A batarian male raised by humans would not take on such beliefs. The source of said beliefs is a mix of cultural issues, the very limited intellectual abilities of batarian females, and the warping influence of the Dark Gods, which has a tendency towards making batarians (and anyone else) vicious, cruel, and dismissive of life.
    Does this mean that human-raised batarians wouldn’t feel the need to dominate and rape and all the other stupid shit they got up to? It seemed more innate rather than cultural in the Cerberus Files.

    Purge the alien. Kill the heretic. Suffer not the witch to live.

    in reply to: Misc. Curiosity #1530
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    1. Can a 4th+ dimensional being die of old age?

    A being that can perceive the fourth dimension certainly can — like the Time Lords.

    A being that is omnipresent — a true 4+ dimensional creature — can’t die of age anymore than you can die of ‘length’ or ‘width’. The best way to describe it is, just like we 3-d creatures can be ANYWHERE in three dimensions but only at a particular set at a particular time, a 4-d creature is limited to subset based on their dimensional makeup and that of any observer.

    A 4-d only creature, for example, would be able to know about you from future meetings the first time you met, but YOUR perceptions would still be limited.

    2. Did you ever post Delyander the Indulgent’s STG File? I saw mention in the old chatroom convos, but it wasn’t posted to FFnet.

    No, I haven’t been able to find a set of words describing the munchkin levels of cheese he evokes.

    Srsly, he could one hit kill Shepard and Tetrimus in a single round.

    3. How is the Severity structured? Is it a bubble encompassing ALL the galaxies under reaper influence? Or is it individual bubbles around each individual galaxy? You mentioned thoi’an seeds heading to between Milky Way and Andromeda being outside reaper influence.

    The Severity is a series of bubbles extending from a field projected by the mass relay network — which is actually it’s primary purpose, travel is secondary. These are ‘linked’ by gateway and power stations in dark space where Reapers hang out between nom-nom-nomings.

    Due to their need for Godpower just to exist, most Reapers tend to ‘power down’ between harvests. While the entire Local Group is under Reaper domination, galaxies farther out may or may not be. They only control thirty or so.

    4. Which aliens can be raised human? Like the Infiltraitors of Renegade Reinterpretations. Your aliens are so much more complex than canon.

    Asari can be raised as humans with zero difficulty. Batarian males and salarian males can be raised with very minor difficulty, although neither will have their races views on sexuality or females.

    Salarian females and drell females, due to egg laying, can be raised as humans but will have a lot of questions. Krogan, drell males, and quarians would have even more issues.

    Turian mindsets have been so warped and bred into the very structure of their genetics by the Palavanus that raising one on a human world (even aside from the chirality issues and sexual … complications) is extremely challenging. In particular, the vast majority of turian children (92%) are mostly very unlikely to be able to develop normally. Outcast turian children might fare better.

    I should not even have to bring up volus or vorcha. Elcor are so different than humans that it would be extremely challenging.

    5. After unmaking a specific protein and erasing the batarians, was that protein ever made real again, or was it left nonexistent even with the batarians gone? Was that protein truly unique only to Khar’shan (which we know was populated with multiple off-world biomes)?

    The Unmaking accidentally killed off a few other species. The protein can re-arise naturally.

    6. Have the geth programs of Prime 302 been separated from the Consensus long enough to become unique and distinct? Could Prime 302 become the PV Legion?

    You will find out all you need to know about our poor friend Prime 302 in upcoming chapters. However, what he has gone through has put his collection of programs waaaaaaaaaaaaay beyond anything Legion ever experienced.

    Purge the alien. Kill the heretic. Suffer not the witch to live.

    Logical Premise
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    So, summary of major differences:

    1) No Manswell: This one is pretty big. While various shenanigans and what not still make the Paragon version a nasty place, the lack of complete global collapse is ENTIRELY due to Victor Manswell being defeated in 2085. Although some of his plots exist in both (particiularly funding Ardiente), the higher baseline stability of the world can pretty much be attributed to Manswell not being influenced to destablize the world.

    2) No Palavanus: The turians in the PV pretty much genocided every non-canon race described above, since the Palavanus made them a lot more aggressive, xenophobic and ruthless. The Paragon turians are still more aggressive than in canon (poor Arcaeas) but are not blindly so.

    3) Overall stability : There’s simply much less chaos and much more willingness to work past differences and find coherent points of agreement in the Paragon version, as opposed to tendencies to assume the worst in the PV. I can’t say how much of this is due to Lethath’s absence.

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    in reply to: The Below #1502
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    Because there is no connection.

    You’ll have to figure that part out on your own.

    Purge the alien. Kill the heretic. Suffer not the witch to live.

    Logical Premise
    Keymaster

    This isn’t really a hard question. It’s more of a “er, what?” type of thing.

    TL;DR, no.

    There can certain be life based on a subset of information stored in an energy field, as I have stated. However, all of these life forms evolved from biological origins.

    There’s no evidence — nor any form of framework — for any kind of consciousness or information storage without a physical matrix. Asking “well what if there was” isn’t particularly useful, it’s akin to asking “well what if fire didn’t burn?”

    Life. This mystical animating force is responsible for evolution itself. Anything it inhabits (be they organic or synthetic) is distinguished from others, the ‘living’ can learn, grow and propagate the way their forms instructed.

    I’m not sure where you got this, but life is not a mystical animating force. An AI, no matter how life-like it seems, is not alive. Technially, viruses aren’t ‘alive’.

    I know there is this popular concept that life is some kind of energy field, but let’s leave that with the siari nuts, shall we? Bluntly put, life is:

    the condition that distinguishes animals and plants from inorganic matter, including the capacity for growth, reproduction, functional activity, and continual change preceding death.

    So. Growth, reproduction, functional activity, continual change, and of course, death.

    Energy cannot ‘grow’. It cannot ‘reproduce’. While it may constantly change, it certainly cannot ‘die’. Ergo, the first problem with any being of ‘pure energy’ without a biological origin is that it isn’t life.

    When people talk about energy beings they are actually talking about one of two things:

    1) Beings who, via technology and evolution, have shifted all of their physical mass into a higher dimensional state, in essence compacting their presence in three dimensions to an infinitely small point, which allows them only to interact with the universe we can see with matter to energy manipulation.

    2) Beings who, via technology alone, ‘upload’ their critical information states and interactions into an energy lattice created in higher dimensions, with technologies to allow them to keep absorbing energies (usually solar) to maintain their existence. In this case they have ‘physical bodies’ simply converted to energy that is in a degenerate state in a higher dimension to allow it to retain organization and form.

    In both cases a physical component was and IS present. It is not tangible in our limited capacity of detection, but it still remains.

    ‘Pure’ energy — be it gravitational, plasma, electrical, nuclear or whatever else — cannot be ‘alive’, as it does not react except through chemical, particle, or atomic reactions with matter and through heat transfer of energy.

    To be fair, the problem is our language. There isn’t any such thing as ‘pure energy’ any more than there is pure momentum or pure charge – the idea doesn’t even make sense.

    It’s like a work of art that is ‘pure beauty’ , or a song of ‘pure music’. The interaction between energy and matter (or any physical system) is like the relationship between various forms of measurements — of distance, for example. You can convert feet into yards, or into meters. Both have a defined ‘length’. But there is no ‘pure’ concept of how long something is — it’s all by comparison.

    In the Planck-era, not only were all higher dimensions so highly curved as to theoretically have negative space, but energy itself as we understand it wasn’t consistent.

    All forms of information storage at the very least require consistency. The Planck era literally had none. Chalking it up to ‘evolution’ does not work. Evolution is NOT merely ‘adaptation’ — it is adaptation to genetic traits and inherited information as a reaction to long-term ongoing environmental changes.

    The only way this would work is in the ekpyrotic universe model, which by it’s nature implies that there is no multiverse or parallel realities, which flies in the face of the PV.

    Setting all that aside:

    The answer is simple: assuming we ignore that it couldn’t have happened, if it did, all such life would have immediately died when the conditions of the universe changed almost immediately after the cooling. Such beings simply could not maintain energy integrity with additional forces being drawn into place without a high level of heat.

    TL;DR, no.

    Purge the alien. Kill the heretic. Suffer not the witch to live.

    in reply to: The Below #1495
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    The Below is a vague term I used to attempt to describe a sort of sub-space that the Outsider uses for travel.

    Every reality exists in a space-time bubble. Outside of said bubbles, reality does not exist. Anything that goes outside of said bubble ceases to exist, and to have ever existed.

    Something carved complex paths through this nothing,lining the paths with warped spars of tangible material essense. This maze of paths is inhabited by various things that have broken dimensional boundaries, like the Outsider but weaker.

    The Eternity Gates are each reality’s ‘connection’ to this void. As I said, nothing not in a bubble or on the paths can exist. The Below is a perversion of this, a space-continuum linked to the Outsider that allows him to traverse the Void must faster than going through the paths.

    The Below ‘touches’ many realities when inhabitants are stupid about using certain technologies and punch ‘holes’ in reality causing dimensional fatigue errors. These are literal ‘tears’ in reality and the Outsider can influence beings through said tears even if he can’t come through them.

    The Below is not a place where intelligent beings of any kind should go — it would be inimical and deadly even for the Leviathans, much less mortal races.

    Purge the alien. Kill the heretic. Suffer not the witch to live.

    Logical Premise
    Keymaster

    It’ll take time for my own views to adjust to this change and update my head-canon (will be easier once Legion makes an appearance and expands on this). I don’t know, I always liked how alien their goals and outlook were in ME2.

    Why adjust it? If you want the more conventional geth view that’s also fine.

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    in reply to: Vigil & Inusannon/Thoi'han technology #1389
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    When did humanity merge with the asari? Are they unisex or are there humari males?

    The humari are … strange. They came about as a result of collapses in asari birth viability after certain incidents as well as socio-cultural merging.

    I haven’t decided if they’re monogender or hermaphroditic or weird. It happened way into the future though, far beyond the span of ME4. I think about six to seven thousand years ahead.

    How does the punishment for violating the Severity work?

    They were Unmade using the Catalyst, the only time Shepard made active, direct use of the Godpower herself.

    Every batarian ceased to exist instantly, six key protein groups specific to batarian beings were removed from reality. Khar’Shan itself was destroyed by a pair of colliding superstrings, which took out all of the core batarian worlds.

    Shepard’s choice was very heavily protested, but there was nothing to be done. Given the power she had, she could have had the Catalyst make her and Liara immortal or even beings with a similar level of power to a Leviathan, on top of [REDACTED]. That she chose to instead [REDACTED] is proof of her force of will.

    Also, [REDACTED]. For what that’s worth.

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    Purge the alien. Kill the heretic. Suffer not the witch to live.

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